No, the majority of the major Faction Warfare changes (with the exception of datacores) were all ideas that originated from within the community.

From all the of GOOD things that are coming that everyone agreed on (LP for kills, LP for plexing), to even the controversial changes like station docking denial, probably 95% of the current package stems from FW community feedback.

If you don't believe me, time to start re-reading old threads.

People will wail and gnash their teeth about "being forced into nullsec" but really there is little in this package that resembles anything within null sec. The exception is docking denial, which like I said is something that many FW pilots have asked for historically.

The other cool thing is that players have complete freedom to participate or not participate in the coming system. Don't want to run missions? PvP for your income instead, you can actually make a living doing that now. Don't want to upgrade your system? Fine, keep your LP. Don't want to be locked out of a station? Quit FW for a day and re-enlist when you get your stuff moved. Station lockout won't keep anyone from playing the game, it'll be more like a time out box, unless you have a neutral alt. For those with neutral alts, its even less of a big deal, you just have to do a little work to get your stuff back. No different than having to work to repair a POS after an enemy's banged it up. Its a consequence. Consequence is what EVE is all about. Its not the consequence I would have chosen, but its also not outrageous to say that owners of a station should deny docking to a sworn enemy.

Nothing here that is forced on anyone, which is another good thing. It wouldn't be a sandbox otherwise. There will be pilots that just enjoy the fact that they get paid to pew, and do nothing else. They wont care about holding a system, they'll just dock on the fringe, and raid into enemy territory and get paid more to kill than ever before.

Others will go for the full package, coordinating efforts to take and hold space and reap the benefits. There are multiple levels to be involved or not be involved, and there are multiple ways to deal with the few consequences that are being implemented, CCP is expecting FW pilots to HTFU and learn to creatively deal with the challenges.

I believe enough in the FW community that I think most people will learn to do just that. There will be those that just rage and quit before they've even seen how this turns out, but I think most FW pilots are tough enough and skilled enough to be able to compensate and perform even when their faction is in a difficult situation.

In the old days, there was no incentive to fight back. Thats why we've been pitchforking for years. Now, there is more reason to fight back than ever before. We are to blame for the current package, not anyone in null sec.

Really? You talk about iterating on faction war as if it will happen every other month. But CCP doesn't even fix bugs in the mechanics.

We have had 2 or 3 patches since a bug in the plexing mechanic has been clearly identified and ccp has not fixed it.

Jade welcome to faction war. This aint sov null sec where ccp is constantly wringing their hands to make sure everything works as intended.

Please tell me what ccp has done for faction war lately that makes you think they will give it any priority at all. Everything points to them puking this out and letting it sit there for years.

We do not even get the courtesy of a clear explanation/devblog telling us what is on sisi. No one can say.

"Go try it" is the answer.

Ok I did I see a militia tab that says I am at war with minmatar and nothing else. I can't use any services in a 24th imperial crusade station even though I fight for amarr. I do a plex and get a 17k lp for a medium but beyond that I have no idea what I accomplished. I look at the map and its the same blurry balls that give very fuzzy information.

How long am I supposed to stay on sisi trying to figure out what they are doing? The only thing that is clear is they are following through with their null sec lite plans. No docking and long timers.


BTW
not all the drones show up on dscan.
The sov tab on the map says (faction war) but it is listing alliances that are not in faction war.